Ryan Beckett: The first thing we need to address are the hoarders.

Sam DeBianchi: The hoarders. I mean, you go my parents’ house and you have pictures from when I was 1 up until now. I always tell people to just remove as much as possible. People can’t really understand a space when there’s too many pieces in the room.

Ryan: The more religious symbols, things that are polarizing. You really need to get those out and make it more neutral. My rule of thumb is: When in doubt, take it out. That’s the best way to do it.

Sam: I like that rule of thumb!