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Checkbooks too scary for horror writer John Saul

John Saul Bankrate: Most people don't appreciate what an achievement it was for a paperback original to make The New York Times' bestseller list.

John Saul: Yes, it was the first paperback to be advertised on network television and the first paperback original to ever make the list. Fortunately for me, the publisher still ran Dell outright at that time and she could do anything she wanted. No committee could have ever made that decision, but she didn't need a committee, it was her company. It couldn't be done that way anymore. There is no one person in publishing who has the power to try something like that anymore.

Bankrate: What effect did overnight success have on you?

John Saul: First off, it meant that I could ride in the front of the airplane, which I really appreciated because I discovered that most of my fear of flying was claustrophobia. I just didn't like flying at all. When I started riding in the front of the plane, it became a lot more bearable. And I could buy premium liquor and good wine and I could use all the paper towels I wanted. Those are the three major things I remember.

Bankrate: Were you prepared to handle the money?

John Saul: No, no. That was a jolt, a major jolt, when suddenly what I was spending every month on basic living was twice as much as my annual income had ever been before. It was kind of a shock.

Bankrate: What did you do?

John Saul: I hired someone to pay the bills because I became emotionally incapable of writing the checks.

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Bankrate: Did you understand how an author gets paid?

John Saul: Not really. Had I known then what I knew the following month, I probably would have stopped trying. I mean, when you consider that the average advance on a novel is still around $5,000 and that there are only probably less than 100 authors in the country who are actually living on the proceeds of their writing, it's pretty scary odds. Fortunately, everything came together; I was at the right place at the right time with the right people with the right project. And I had written enough books by then that when they asked me if I could produce the book in a month, I was able to say yes and then actually do it. It's not as though "Suffer the Children" was the first book I'd ever written; it was just the first one that they liked.

Bankrate: Did you invest your money, say, in stocks or real estate?

John Saul: Both, but I've got managers who take care of all of that. I'm a dunce at that. I buy the real estate and let other people buy the stocks. I don't understand it. I don't understand how a percentage point here and a percentage point there can be so important, but apparently it is. Once I smartened up enough to let other people manage it, I done way better! (laughs) Leave it to those who enjoy it and understand it. All I know about money is it's nice to have enough so that if you spend it you don't have to worry about it.

Bankrate: What advice would you give young writers about money?

John Saul: Make damn sure that you know when the next check is coming and that it is coming, and don't spend the tax money. I know one author who spent the tax money on the assumption that he was going to have another bestseller and when he didn't, the IRS came and took everything away from him one day. You have to be able to plan well and understand that the checks don't come in regularly once a month and you don't always know what size they're going to be. You certainly get to a point, if you've had the level of success I've had, where you have a pretty good idea what the base is going to be every year. But in the early years, there was a lot of making certain that there were ways to level out the cash flow. I mean, there were times when I kept a running line of credit because every now and then you would run short; they would move a publication date and that would move a check. You just have to sort it all out. It's a shifty world.

-- Posted: July 12, 2004
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