| Interview: Bobby Braddock |
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What did you think would happen? |
I
hoped it would go away, having an economics IQ of
about 50 (laughs). After that marriage, I remarried,
and I had learned a lot of lessons and I was just
trying to climb out. My second wife was fine; she
wasn't spending all the money. I eventually just got
very deeply in debt and ended up owing the IRS a lot
of money. I actually never got out of debt until the
late '90s. I'm in decent shape now, and have been
investing my money. I'm doing OK. I'm doing now like
I should have been doing when I was 30 or 35.
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So you spent better than 20 years in debt? |
Yeah.
And the thing is, it was only a few years ago that
I got a good credit rating because I had IRS liens
against property. I was in such bad shape that in
1988, I was so badly in debt…I mean, I had hits up
through the early '80s, "He Stopped Loving Her Today"
was 1980, several number one records. But I was in
such terrible debt that I had to sell the writer's
rights to my songs to my publisher Buddy Killen; not
to the company but to him personally. I have to say,
it saved my life, but at the same time, if I had it
to do over, I would rather have lived in a little
room and taken a bus to Music Row everyday than to
have given up my copyrights. That's a precious thing
to let go of.
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Did you ever come close to losing your house to foreclosure? |
Luckily, no. I had liens against the house, and eventually things got so bad in the '80s that I was just renting, having sold both my houses. I eventually bought the house I was renting because I like it. I still live there now. I never filed bankruptcy, never Chapter 11 or anything like that. Looking back on it, it may not have been a bad idea had I done that. I would rather have done that than give up my copyrights. That was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life.
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How deeply in debt were you? |
I've said half a million, but that's probably an exaggeration. So much of this was accumulated fines and penalties over the years, maybe even the majority of it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like $350,000 or $400,000. And I owed my publisher almost that much, too. Of course, I got out of debt with the IRS a long time ago, and after (Toby Keith's 2001 country/rap hit) "I Wanna Talk About Me," I didn't owe my publisher anything. Everything I get for the past few years is free and clear.
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Thank goodness for hit songs,
right? |
Got me into trouble, got me out.
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